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Limit Turnovers, Please? #11 Georgetown Hoyas (13-3, 3-2) at St. John's Red Storm (8-8, 2-3)

Georgetown Hoyas at St. John's Red Storm, Jan 15, 2012 12:00 PM EST


Georgetown Hoyas

St. John's Red Storm
Georgetown vs.

Opponent

#11 (13-3, 3-2); RPI: 19 NR (8-8, 2-3); RPI: 144
Date: January 15, 2012
Location: New York, NY
Time: 12:00 p.m ET
Arena: Madison Square Garden
TV: MASN Spread: Georgetown -5.5
Radio: ESPN980 Over/Under: 130.5
Online:
ESPN3.com SBN Affiliate:
Rumble In The Garden
THUNDER TRAIN ROLLS INTO THE GARDEN


(Perspectives After The Jump)

Star-divide

View from the Student Section - A Perspective from Campus:

Well boys and girls, this is a BIG one. 5 AM wake up call for this roadtrip. Let's not repeat our last performance when I was in MSG for a St. John's game in which we lost my freshman year in the BE Tourney. Let me be frank. This is not a good St. John's team. This team does not hold a candle to the one Lav had last year. Also, Lav isn't there... (best wishes for a speedy recovery though). The only thing that worries me is Moe Harkless (and to a lesser extent God's Gift). Both are forwards of a Kevin Jones offensive type, although neither rebounds the ball as well as Mr. Jones. That being said, the guard play of St. John's has been no bueno. This might be a game for Jason Clark and Markel Starks to find their rhythm once more. Please do not let depressed me be on TV for a second game straight (ESPN is a bunch of HDCs). Hoya Saxa.

View from the Court Side Seats - A Perspective from OldHoya:

A strong St. John's is a good thing for Georgetown. The best years of the Big East were dominated by Georgetown and St. John's, with Syracuse desperately trying to find a dance partner. That being said, to hell with the Redmen for the weekend, this is a must win game for Georgetown. OldHoya has had great times in MSG, and hopes that the Hoyas will too today.

View from the Enemy- A Perspective from our Sleeping With The Enemy Interview:

I think the Hoyas' height will be difficult on the Red Storm, and if G'Town doesn't turn the ball over, they have the game by 6-7.

JahidiLikesPie Nervous Level:

OH CRAP

I am not quite sure what to say. I think we are still in a man defense and I think Kilpatrick just went by Whittington again. This team should not have lost that game. The loss caused me to enforce a ban all sites associated with GU Hoops.

Sunday's game has become this years version of what seems like an annual event for our Hoyas. Come one, come all to watch this year's version of the 'Stem The Bleeding' game. SJU can be frighteningly good or frighteningly bad and GU lets their hot hand go the entire 2nd half without drawing up plays to put him in a position to score. So frustrating!!! I can't say that I am really nervous about the game, but I am disgustingly nervous about the prospects of us losing the game (OH CRAP!). My last GU/SJU MSG experience was spent with JGD and BoatsnHoes watching a nice fat LOSS with the SJU students.

This will be my 2nd time @ MSG this week. I went to my first Rangers game on Tuesday and I abstained from beer and it was one of the most frustratingly depressing experiences of my life. Let me just say that no such behavior will be tolerated on Sunday. I plan on being at Stout early AND late and I plan on drinking like a goddamn VIKING. Hey, what better way to celebrate our most famous civil rights leader than by nursing a viking-like hangover?!?!

View from the Sportsbook (via DonBest) - A Perspective from Vegas:

The Line: Georgetown -5.5

This is the first ever view from Vegas perspective that's coming straight at you from Las Vegas. Really looking forward to watching this game at fucking 9am after a night at Marquee and a million cigarettes.

The pick is Georgetown -5.5. Final score Hoyas 72 Johnnies 59.

Casual Hoya is 8-8 ATS this season.
Last season: 18-14 ATS.
Overall: 48-30 ATS.

www.CasualHoya.com: Where Your Money Stays And Plays.

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Comments

Any news on Stout?

Rumored not to be open until 11:30

Those rumors were lies...

Drink on!

Just wondering

if the Nervous level will ever change?

Would yours?
This is one of those low probability high risk games

Like driving without a seatbelt or not using a condom with your hooker

is that an inclusive or?
Is that a hooker in the lane?
hey!
at some point yes?
Jahidi time

Sleepy is keeping a seat warm at the bar for jahidi. But only if he’s drinking

Casual luxury suite today?
Is it 12 yet??
Noon games the most difficult

Hard to decide which beer to pair with which cereal.

oatmeal stout

Drink your cereal.

Already poured

You read my mind

Otter Creek Wolaver's Oatmeal Stout

damned tasty breakfast

Excellent input

Oatmeal stout is the most the delicious

oatmeal moves the bowels nicely
it's whiskey time for me

May have to switch to rum and coke if I need to drink faster

I am sooooooo looking forward to another ESPN3 adventure
I am very excited

to watch more pixels in motion.

Motion?

Your ESPN3 gets motion? I just get frozen images punctuated by C team announcers.

I ponied up for the ESPN3 Premium

Moving pixels AND the only blackouts are self-induced. This is all in jest, of course (except for the rage blackouts).

Am I the only one who doesn't have massive problems?

Aside from sometimes getting locked out because ESPNU games aren’t shown if you have Comcast, I’ve never really had a problem.

For the last three years

I had Comcast, and didn’t have too many problems. Now that I live in Alabama, I have something called “Knology” which seems a bit slower and is probably the root of my issues.

Knology

Sounds like the southern abbreviation for “Technology”. I’m impressed they even got six of the letters right.

You might could be onto something

(That’s actually something they say here. “Might could.” smh)

i think the root of your problem is living in alabama

internet provider name is simply symptomatic of that root cause.

Can't argue with that
Feels like a great day to blow someone out
Just noticed this on the Twitter feed

Hoya2aPacer I may b the best passing big man in the game right now. What y’all think. Great win tonight.

He has a little competition

From a young man named Greg Monroe.

Must replace dunking exhibition at the NBA All-Star game with

a big-man passing challenge.

You know, like the WNBA does
What's up fucks

Hoyas now -7 at the damn book here at The Cosmopolitan in Vegas

You're in fine form today, I see
Last minute bathroom break

Minimizing the chance of shitting my pants when we give up that 15 point first-half lead

That's actually a great idea
Maybe we'll just take care of business today

And cruise to a double-digit victory…and…

sigh. video quality = 1 bar and it still isn't fully functioning video
Ugh. Tim Welsh again.
Watching at the tombs today

It was the only bar in the area I thought would definitely not switch away to the Ravens game later.

probably a good call

and less depressing than the basement of the metro center hyatt

Theory in Chicago

Great bloody Marys

Check your local listings: The game is apparently being broadcast on

The Cox Sports Network (never knew there was such a thing, effin’ blackout dammit).

on MSG in NYC and CT area
womens game too

The bar I’m at casually has the women’s game against cuse on next to the real game. At least one of them will go well. Right?

"God's Gift"

A mere five years ago, “God’s Gift” was merely a tattoo on Marc Egerson’s neck. Now he is a starting forward for St. John’s. Kids grow up fast these days.

The st johns student section

Makes the Georgetown student section look over populated.

Cahill in the crew

Hold onto your butts

Henry

No.

Also

Markel – No. Interesting shot selection so far…

Well this is looking......ugh
Oof

Missed three → Nate gets embarrassed → Hollis fouls on a made shot

nates ankles got smashed

beyond broken

Lubick just got Kemba'ed

Big man fall hard

nice dish to make up for it
yeah that was nice

Clark open under the basket is usually a good thing

We actually moved on offense that time

And good things happened. Perhaps we should make a note of this…

Commercials coming in crystal clear
Hunkering down for 90 mins of pure ugly

Not looking too smooth here. C’mon boys!!

We're winning the turnover battle!

So far. It’s early.

sidenote: lubick needss to lube up with some oil

AND GO TO THE TANNING BED

Nate back to stinking
This team looks atrocious

No funny way to put it

ooph turnovers.... lessons not learned

They have more/
than twice our score

Henry

Not valuing the ball. Grab it. More Whittington and trawick.

Trawick just ha a nasty TO of his own
Passed the ball to SJU
Can Starks legally change his name to

EmperorMarkel Starks? I’d like to see this for next season.

Nobody wants it

Playing like pussies.

Well this is fun

We are a major confidence boost for every than we play.

we need to learn how to put the ball in the hoop
Women's team up 16-1 against Cuse
2-12

is not going to get this done.

Look like shit in person too
5 points in 9 minutes of play

Awesome

*sigh*

not good….smh!

watchin this hungover

even worst

Here we go

Signs of life

Did we just accomplish something out of a time out?
Goof defense

does wonderful things

Looking forward to see Moses back down God's Gift in the paint next season
Like the aggression from Sims

Don’t like the turnovers from Sims

Whittington

With a nice rub.

that sounds sexual
Good point

Pause

who doesnt like basketball related sexual innuendos
And we have a ballgame folks!

Way to right this ship.

What do you know

Cahill with a terrible call

Not even sure what the second foul on Starks was
A push-off by the StJ player
Cahill

Hellbent on getting Starks on the bench

Would that be his third then?

Bad memories.

Starks in foul trouble

This will be fun

The Cahill Touch Foul Bonanza begins

What a massive enormous douche canoe

I really do not like that man
could anyone like satan's offspring?
If Satan's Offspring were playing in a Cahill-reffed game

I might put in a kind word.

"Satan's Offspring" isn't one of St John's recruits for next year, is he?
Porter

Needs to make those mid range jumpers

so true
He hurries them even when he has time.
When I fullscreen ESPN3

The “Press Esc to exit full screen mode.” banner never goes away. It’s like a tradeoff for increased picture quality.

It's pretty much the only reason I still turn on my Xbox

that and netflix

I'm a PS3 guy

Does ESPN3 run on Playstation, too?

Nope
johnnie's cheeleaders look 12 years old

wish tcu would hang around for 1 season

wow

you weren’t kidding

I love this lineup

Clark, whit, Otto, Hopkins, Hollis. Love it

We can call that a pass, right?
Great sequence for Otto there!
after going 0-5 FG before that, too

good for him

That's a nice burst of positive performance
MSG Hoya crowd already better than Verizon
Whittington almost travels every time he catches a pass.

I could see Cahill using that to fuck us later.

I bet Cahill pays for sex

At least twice a month. In Radisson hotels.

I don't like the fact that the Johnnies have only gone to the line once this half

We’re begging Cahill to make a halftime adjustment that’ll blow our minds.

I'm terrified about the possibility of refs making halftime adjustments
St. John's now with 19 total FT
With all this length... you'd think we could PENETRATE!
^This...^
Was hoping for a reaction from the Casual Cougar Squad to be honest
TRUTH

in all kinds of levels

Autolube

Could probably facilitate that.

Sweet defensive sequence
Very sweet

And very encouraging. Let’s keep that up.

Just took a few minutes to wake up
Noon games should be outlawed

Especially on holiday weekends. At least it won’t interfere with the NYC fans ability to get home and cry about the NFL playoffs.

Great adjustment by 3

To switch to the zone

Some kind of weird, intimate moment with Trawick and Porter there

Anyone else see that?

Otto Porter is my favorite Freshman since...

Jon Wallace?

Where are you?
On my couch, you?
Theory
Will you be at the Depaul game?

1) I thought you (Hire Esherick) were at the game? Didn’t you post all those pics from the train?
2) I’m too hungover to leave my apartment.
3) I will be at the DePaul game (not sure if that question was directed at me).

Lies
Yes

Sitting wherever GU Chicago club tickets are

Do you know if there are any more GU Club of Chicago tix?

Still haven’t purchased mine.

Even if there's not

I’m sure there’ll be plenty of room. Guessing DePaul doesn’t come anywhere near filling Allstate.

Should be
I will also be at the DePaul game
I'll be the guy wearing Georgetown gear
bromance in full swing...
18-2 run

I like it

love the effort

on the o-boards!

This

Exploiting a short team, as we should. Good start.

Starting to be really impressed by whit

Defense, glass, passing, and most importantly, no turnovers

I had forgotten how ugly

Gene Keady is.

But the hair is timeless

Literally

Not sure

If its literally hair tho

This Hoyas offense

is like what I used to run at Yates. I call it “soft misses.” Soft misses —> layups.

Hollis isn't doing so hot at the moment 0-6...smh!
But he's taking unforced shots

I’m comfortable with him shooting as long as Otto keeps up the boards

Ahhhhhhh

Just got a clos up of Gene. Crushing in HD.

what a flop

duke would be proud

Should be up double digits by now

But why would we want to win comfortably?

How was Otto not fouled there?
Simple

John Cahill is on the floor

St johns is painful to watch

They have no idea how to penetrate a zone.

Note to self…..when they play Cuse, give the points and take the under.

Back from retirement

SB nation app downloaded

Clown
Cahill had an opportunity to make another blatantly wrong call there

And was thwarted. Hopefully that bodes well.

I think we need to get

fire hireesherick and Causal Hoya in the same room

Already happened

Major disappointment

New proposition:

Otto “the Janitor” Porter

Well that's flattering
Better than Gabe's nickname on The Office this week

The Toilet

We ended the half on a 17-6 run

With plenty of opportunity to improve. The question is whether we can sustain the defensive presence while finding any kind of spark on offense.

If 3 goes back to man to man

I will vomit

But if Georgetown wins simply due to our superior athletes playing in superior fashion

Then no one will know how good of a coach JT3 is!!

A respectable

6 turnovers

Also

Hollis hasn’t even scored yet

On the other hand

We kept the Johnnies from making a single 3 thus far.

There's that scoring we were waiting for

I don’t think SJU is going to start hitting from deep though

he looks lost

Frustrated. And that caused the offensive foul

5 thefts and a charge, right?

No random passes out of bounds or stomping on the baseline. I think that’s a slight improvement over recent games.

Whittington killing the Johnnies on the glass

Like to see some more of that

A friend and fellow Hoya

expressed his first-ever interest in basketball on the day of WVU, and then attended Cincy with me.

I thought about forbidding him to ever watch again, but then decided the only safe place for a jinx like that is the bottom of the Potomac. RIP buddy, had to be done.

JTIII

Always joked about Izzo being a mobster tough guy type. I guess it applies to his fans as well.

decent hoya saxa between thundertrain and hoya blue

Good prospects for MSG hoya domination in second half

Red Storm coaching staff

IRAN SO FAR………

There you go HOLLIS

Nice to see you

agreed
agreed

Really don’t like how Nate just slaps rebounds against the backboard

Really like how Nate slaps blocks against the backboard!
Except when he does THAT

nice block

haha yeah that comment was poorly timed

awesome block

Bring in...

The Executioner

this is disturbingly AWESOME
Lubick back to the bench please
Attaboy Nate

At least playing defense. Unlike hank

Whoa

not sure I understand how Clark did that.

I love when Refs take a running start to their emphatic charge calls
1000 times no

I hope I’m missing ur sarcasm. We don’t watch the games for refs

We sure don't

But if you don’t laugh at the over-zealous, running charge signal, then you are dead inside.

that's what I'm sayin!

It’s like rec baseball when you were a kid and the ump goes STTTEEEEEEEEERRRIIIIIIIIIIIIKKKEEEE

Makes them vulnerable to the Daniel-San crane kick. Cahill needs one.

Although that one went in our favor

It’s disturbing to see how excited officials get to call offensive fouls

Hollis PROgressing to the mean

After the shitty first half

DEFENSE AND A DUNK

WELCOME BACK, YOUNG GEORGETOWN TEAM THAT I LOVE

Oh look

Hollis is here

Jason

With his first career pass on a fast break

Congrats

i think hollis will adjust with ease making 3s in the NBA
Hollis can keep shooting from the NBA three

As long as he keeps making them

he leads the Big East in 3s. he can do what he wants.

This.

Hollis can shoot Js all day long.

why the hell are we being introduced to the st john's mock trial team?

i don’t have the attention span for this right now

Hollis is 3/3 this half

Bad Hollis gives way to Good Hollis? The second coming of BoBo?

St Johns must be

Hurting for championships if they are honoring the mock trial team during a break.

St John's

is so SO bad at basketball offense.

what's the worse ESPN3 commercial?

Bleu de chanel from last week or the awful Tositos fiesta bag?

Those Toyota (?) commercials are really bothering me

Tostitos bag the best of the worst.

I vote for the headphones commercial where the guy comes out of the subway station

Was big last semester. I think it was for headphones.

Tostito's Bag

Brought to us by BCS Satan

jgd?

Are you here? Haven’t seen you yet.

was really hoping to put a face to that name.
Poor Aaron

Looked bored in that huddle. Hope we can get him some minutes at the end of this one.

hopefully but hoyas love a close game

DAMNIT

I want a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup

Also, calling someone a “Non-Academic Qualifier” is a pretty egregious misplaced modifier, right? Don’t they mean “Academic Non-Qualifier”?
I understand that it’s not the announcer’s fault, but the NCAA’s fault.

And we score out of another Timeout?

Who is coaching these guys?!?

I am

you’re welcome

Did Hopkins miss the rim on that dunk attempt?
Oh that dunk could have been epic
Why are we SO BAD at dunking?
I'm willing to give Mikael a pass

in light of the potential thunderousness that the dunk possessed

Agreed

At least he tried. Would have been incredible. Hank would have gotten swatted

No dunking drills since midnight madness
That's what I was thinking

I think it’s a safe bet that JT3’s practices are dunk-free affairs.

continuation of the DaJuan curse?
At least he got the memo on

not going up soft for a layup

Would've been happier with a made lay-up

But I guess I shouldn’t complain about steps in the right direction, even if they’re baby steps

Jason hates passing ...

Almost as much as he hates terrorists.

Can we get a little Jabril
More Jabril

like more cowbell….

http://youtu.be/q4royOLtvmQ

I love Otto Porter so so much.
Hollywood on Broadway
40 points

Free shots at bar

Still peach schnapps?
Yup
The owner is a great guy

But we really need to push for a better shot than that

40 points for the team

or one player? courtesy of theory?

When the team hits 40.

This is around the time

We blow leads. Lets see if that has changed

Time for victory shots
Length really bothering Johnnies on defense

Me gusta

id like to see some whittington dunks
Traveler's Insurance

Their ads at Bradley Airport might be my favorite ads of all time.

The SJ pep band

Should not try to adapt ke$ha

Has Hank scored a FG today?
Not sure

Was just thinking that if there’s one thing I’d like to see him improve on, it’s being a more aggressive scorer against smaller teams.

I think he hit an 18 foot jumper from the top of the key
One

Off of two attempts.

Is that Kenya making the 3 ball eye sign on bench?
Clark doing his best Tom Brady impression
Quality Education Academy

is such a lie.

Did ESPN drop one of our points?

Could’ve sworn we had 42 before Hollis’ open layup

scoreboard was screwy

looks like it adjusted

I'm shocked

to learn that we’re 2nd in the BE in FT%.

Need to foul harder

How many and-1’s have we given up?

Since the objective is to win

We should make some FTs and stop them from scoring

And make open layups

nice assist, jabril

please please just put this game away
CAHILL MUST DIE
ESPN3 froze

What was the call?

clark hit a ridiculous fadeaway at top of key

as clock ran out, ruled it as charge. no basket

"Fadeaway" being key

Making the “charge” ridiculous

its offensive

that they call that offensive

i see what you did there
your handle is based on rare occurrence
its hopefully optimistic
But when it does happen...

Magical.

damn Cahill

That is all.

dude really likes to be on camera making the "big calls"

Too bad they’re all bullshit

I was wondering when we would throw this game away
nothing is ever easy
Jesus

5 point game, Porter with 4 fouls. Time to panic?

Yep
Hollis disagrees
thank goodness!

I would trust Hollis over myself

Ugh ESPN3

This video quality is like watching Hoyas for Atari. How did we get down to 3?! The blue dots were doing so much better than the white dots…

if cahill chokes to death on his whistle and I laugh

am i a bad person?

probly

But u wouldn’t be alone

That's assuming he's going to swallow his whistle at some point

Unlikely

post of the day
In other news

Anyone who bet on the Houston Texans is currently throwing up.

My lock of this weekend is Giants and the points

crazy how big the line is considering how well the Giants are playing

Really, how well are they playing?
I'd take the other side of that bet.
one zero-stake betes versus random internet person.

done.

I win!!!

All the imaginary dollars….

There you go HANK

Like to see a dunk – but making free throws would help too

Good response to the Johnnie's run
And Moe is GONE!
Time to separate

And get Bowen a couple minutes

How could you be so Harkless

Cahill?

Porter and Whittington are great at getting putbacks
figured out the dunking problem

He rebounds under the basket and he doesn’t have the angle to dunk.

This is true for all of them.

I foresee a giant man-crush on Greg Whittington
"Foresee"

or “already have?”

I'm still being wooed
Greg can seal the deal

with 4 more ppg, one really sweet dunk, or a flowers+candy combo

these 9-year olds on the Big East commercial

are horrible actors.

Keep your day job, 9-year olds.

Good effort today…

Dominated the boards.. as we should..

hollis must be allergic to free throws today
Clark 13-7-7? Nice floor game
Otto!

with the exclamation point!

Almost time to see Aaron??

If Porter hits this one…

Otto and Whitt

Played like men.

Double DOUBLE

for Otto. I’m glad he got back into the game despite 4 fouls.

And now one for Jason

Keep em coming Hoyas!!!!!!!

Really bad at math, nvm!!!!
Double double alert for Otto

One more rebound!

ESPN shows him with 12 already
Bah, bad at math, nvm!!!!
Thought ESPN3 said 12-9

But hooray if he’s got it!

CBS was also showing 9

until that last one

this is the georgetown I'm familiar with

gritty, tough wins against inferior competition

After not having a single first half point

Hollis is one shy of the game lead

That'll do pig, that'll do.
I think we have a new cahill

Why call the foul when one team is up 20 and there are 46 seconds left

300 section pulled off fight song well
Excellent Hoya Saxa cheer

Stronger fan presence than any of our last 3 home games, sounding great!

Um, the Marquette game was one of our last three
Rounding up

because every week with this team feels like a month? Possibly a disposition to glass-half-empty the student section? Or maybe just poor counting skills…

Wow amazing Hoya ... Saxa cheer from the faithful at the end

What an enjoyable way to end a trip to MSG! The hoya faithful were load and strong to ring in a victory this afternoon.

It was great to see the hoyas in NYC. My bro and I bought some late tix that were close enough to hit a 3 from the corner. We were load and proud to cheer on our boys in blue n gray. Awesome post game at Stout.
Go giants for a perfect Sunday in the making

No heart attack this time!

Great success

7am start time was brutal but well with it for a big road win
Hollis SEVEN for SEVEN in the second half!!!!
Some nice lines in the box

Hollis: 20, 4 boards, 4 steals
Clark: 15, 8 boards, 8 assists
Porter: 13, 10 boards, 4 steals
Whit: 8, 8 boards

Wow, Whit with almost a double double, too

Way to take care of business, boys

solid single-single though.
Those boys game to ball today… Yeeeeeeesh

6 of Whit’s rebounds were offensive. Casual.

Our o-board totals would feel much more impressive

If we could nail more bunnies than a viagraless Hef.

wait...

“nail more bunnies than a viagraless Hef”? So if Hef’s not on Viagra, he’s not nailing many bunnies? Is that your point? But he’s still Hef, so he’s nailing more bunnies than, say, you or me, right?

Yeah, the not-quite double negative there made this too difficult

But I couldn’t really come up with a penthouse letters-worthy joke about finishing at the rim.

Never thought Id ever put the words Jason Clark and eight assists together but..

Clark with 8 assists? Whaaaaaaaaah? We’re back in the winners circle fellas!

i have dragged my sick, dying self to my comp

to say HOYA SAXA!

You need a bloody mary
Great scene at corner of 8th ave and 33rd

Hoya bus heading west on 33rd street heading home. Bus suddenly pulls over and jtiii and half the team get out because someone spotted Jesse sapp walking down the street.

NYC reunion ensues.

that's awesome!
hope you casually documented this precious moment
Today made sweeter

By the ladies’ domination of Cuse. Team shot 12-24 from three. OOF

Missed game.

Sad.

The good news is

there’s another one coming in a couple days.

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