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New Beginnings: Cincinnati Bearcats (12-4, 2-1) at #11 Georgetown Hoyas (13-2, 3-1)

Cincinnati Bearcats at Georgetown Hoyas, Jan 9, 2012 9:00 PM EST


Cincinnati Bearcats

Georgetown Hoyas
Visitor vs. Georgetown
NR (12-4, 2-1); RPI: 134 #11 (12-2, 3-1); RPI: 9
Date: January 9, 2012
Location: Washington, DC
Time: 9:00 p.m. ET
Arena: Verizon Center
TV: ESPNU Spread: Georgetown -6.5
Radio: ESPN980 Over/Under: 125
Online:
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Casual Pregame: Iron Horse - 507 7th St. NW


(Perspectives After The Jump)

Star-divide

View from the Student Section - A Perspective from Campus:

Well, we're back in DC as the Hoyas take on Cincy tonight. I'm not going to lie to you, I have an irrational fear of Cincinnati based on our results against them ever since I've stepped foot on campus. Our game against them last year spelled the end of the season for Georgetown, for all intensive purposes, so I hope to god we can avenge this tragedy. I fully plan on getting Yancy Gates to knock me out, and get him suspended for the rest of the season(how I will do that is yet to be determined). I do feel like I am hitting mid-season form with my fan skills, so hopefully the Hoyas will show that they are hitting their stride as well. Sean Kilpatrick makes me nervous as does Justin Jackson, who can rebound the ball. Similar to Georgetown, Cincinnati has some length, but they also have essentially no offensive system, no coach, and no players (just thugs). Weird start time aside, let's ZIP EM UP!!!!! Hoya Saxa.

View from the Court Side Seats - A Perspective from OldHoya:

OldHoya is still seething after that game against WVU and wishes he were courtside in Morgantown so he could have sent a message to those trigger happy refs himself. Tonight, OldHoya looks forward to being back at Verizon, and hopes the Hoyas can win this one to avenge last season's loss in which Chris Wright broke his hand.

OldHoya still doesn't consider the Bearcats a true Big East rival, and doesnt' quite understand why they serve chili with spaghetti in Cincinnati.

View from the Enemy- A Perspective from our Sleeping With The Enemy Interview:

DD: I have to take Georgetown in this one. The Bearcats haven't done well in Washington in the past and I think Georgetown presents some match up problems for the Bearcats small ball approach.

BB: I have a bad feeling it's going to be more like the game 2 years ago in DC than the one last year. Not quite by the margin, but by the losing. I don't know how this Cincinnati team plays on the road, and they haven't played that well lately. I'll go Georgetown 69-60.

JahidiLikesPie Nervous Level:

OH CRAP

What an awful weekend. I sat through that eye-gouging loss without so much as even sniffing an adult beverage. Normally, the first sign of a GU game playing out like that is cause to begin to pour as much Coors Light down my throat as science will allow. Unfortunately, I did very poor resolution negotiations and made a commitment to pick January as my 'dry-out month'. Why did I not bargain for something that would have been easier like bacon or strip clubs or black licorice? Instead, I am now forced to spend the next 3 weeks watching this team with no anesthesia. I then proceeded to follow the scores of every conference game for the rest of the weekend and realize that I may not make it past next Sunday when I will be watching us play the Johnnies from great seats.

Cincinnati. Can we pull out that vengeance tour bus from the 2010 BET and get that thing going? I really want to pay Cashmere back for RUINING MY SPRING. Now that we have that out of the way, let me tell you how nervous I am about this game? This team is no slouch. Yancy gates has the ability to 'Kevin Jones' us on the inside, Jacknife Powerbomb Henry Sims and then lay The People's Elbow down on everyone that comes to rescue Hank. While, Yancy can't shoot from the outside, it seems that those around him can. Can you say Holy Shit? I can, but the blog lords will translate it 'Oh Crap!'

View from the Sportsbook (via DonBest) - A Perspective from Vegas:

The Line: Georgetown -6.5. Over/under 125.

The good news for Georgetown is that Cincy plays a very similar style to West Virginia. The bad news for Georgetown is that just like the games against WVU, the games against Cincy are equally difficult to watch and often shitshow foulfests. I expect this one to be low scoring, and though I don't like giving up this many points in a Big East game, I'll roll with the Hoyas since the game is at home and Georgetown can't play much worse than it did on Saturday. I think. This is a reluctant Hoyas selection. Very reluctant.

The pick is Georgetown -6.5. Final score Hoyas 74 - Beacats 66.

Casual Hoya is 8-7 ATS this season.
Last season: 18-14.
Overall 48-29.

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Comments

in Vegas for my 21st which was yesterday

Up $80 and 2/2 at the books. Georgetown is only -3.5 here at the Monte Carlo. Jumpin all over that line.

Vegas amateur

That’s 1st half.

enjoy your first (legal) taste of alcohol

what gent’s club do you have lined up?

ambitious venue selection for your 21st...

happy birthday!

Chris Wright is the man

This is what revenge looks like:

pic.twitter.com/N0iWQkaz

that is phenomenal
whos in section 115 today?

holllerrrrrrrrrrrrr

this start time blows

not sure if i can get up at 2am to watch.

Monday Funday?

Why not?

Wheres the pregame tonight?
seth davis unusually kind
I think Henry Sims is the best passing big man John Thompson III has ever had, even better than Greg Monroe. Sims is a point center and that offense is tailor made for his skills. If Draymond Green played for Georgetown, he might lead the country in assists.
He may be unusually kind

but I don’t think he is right. Sims is a very good passer but Monroe was excellent. Guess it depends on how you classify Jeff Green as well.

I agree, Monroe is great and had a double digit assist game (at Providence?)

but that pass by Henry at WV around his man to the cutter was NAICE.

seems almost a little back handed

sims is so great a passer , but if D Green was in the sytem he’d be even better

Monroe a better passer.
Agreed

You just get me, man.

Never inclined to disagree with Esteban

And won’t here. However, I will say that Monroe arrived as a much better passer and his instincts fit JTIII’s offense ideally from the moment he stepped onto the court. Much like Otto now, Monroe had the unusual ability to see plays before they developed and predict where the opening would be.
Sims arrived as a more traditional post and has had to learn to be instinctive from the high-post. Arguably, Sims has a better complement of cutters around him than did Monroe (players 2-9), which improves Sims’ assist numbers.

I agree that Sims has better cutters

and Monroe was (perhaps?) surrounded by better shooters. I feel very confident when Henry gets the ball at the top of the key that he is going to make something good happen . . . even better than when he gets it on the block.

Snowing in DC

Don’t we always win in the snow? #snowpocalypse

keep an ear to the air

and listen for the thunder

I might destroy my vocal chords if Lubick dunks tonight

I know, no one will miss them but me – but whatever.

new school mutality?
Except when we play ODU at McD

#cynical

The McD curse cancels out the snow blessing
We've Shot

11/49 (22%) from beyond the arc over the last 3 games. Those have got to start dropping, we’re not that bad of a 3-point shooting team.

Right? RIGHT?!

Any students lined up for the game yet?
The Wright Stuff...

Wright has been tweeting all day about this game…the Hoyas better bring it and avenge last year. I am not driving down to Verizon and missing the melt down on the Bachelor to watch sloppy play—turnovers, missed free throws…our boys better do this for Chris! GO HOYAS!

Really, "view from the student section?"
all intensive purposes

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=For%20all%20intensive%20purposes

That is inexcusable from a Georgetown senior
Ouch....
pet peeve of mine
mine too

I was inclined to let it slide in hopes that it was written after several pregame cocktails

if that's the case, then all is forgiven
He's a senior back on campus early.

I’d be surprised if there was a day where he hadn’t had a few drinks, regardless of whether or not there was a game about to happen.

I'd let it slide if it were a mere type

Like “all intent sand purposes” or something. Alcohol doesn’t explain that mistake. But alcohol is probably the best way to make up for it.

You mean "typo"?

(Sorry, just teasing, couldn’t resist.)

Oh wow, how embarrassing.

I’d like to think that was subliminally intentional.

Likewise

Whenever I hear someone say it, I can’t help but ask them to explain what they just said

Glad you guys pointed this out

If I was the only one, I would’ve felt like a HDC

can't believe it took this many posts to get called out
Probably because I wasn't able to watch the WVU debacle:

Fearless Mindless Predictions for Cincinatti Game:

- Otto hits at least one three pointer and grabs 10+ rebounds
- Markel breaks out of his funk, makes 50% of his threes, and plays tough defense
- Nate and Mikael combine for 6+ offensive boards and get Gates in early foul trouble
- Jason reverts (in a positive fashion) to his fearless driving and foul-drawing ways
- Hollis hits two key jumpers in second half
- Cinci goes cold from three in second half
- Hoyas obtain first double-digit victory in Big East play 70 – 58

That would be superb
I prefer my delusion double-distilled...
Terrible game to bet on

but I think Georgetown wins.

Can this game start already?

I can’t hold it much longer

any relation

to the Goddess of Gif?

just saw that

Trying to drop the Hoya to lessen the confusion…can’t figure out how

in business
ah, a distant relative!

i like it :)

thanks

I can get on the telephone and call you up baby

Casual Drinking Tip

I’ve usually written off the He’Brew line as chintzy and gimmicky, but god damnit this is a tasty beer. It’s practically a port.

bought this for my friend for the holidays

big hit

Also, not my photograph.

Whoever took this needs to man up and get a real tulip glass.

fwiw, it's a he-brew branded glass

i will be drinking my recently illegally imported into philadelphia johnny drum private stock straight bourbon to get through the game.

Looks like a New Belgium glass to me
i am dumb. you are right.

wish i could blame the bourbon below, but i haven’t cracked it…yet.

Whoa

is this game really not until 9? I was here waiting for tip.

Damn…

First time, long time...

This 9 p.m. start is rough. Working late solely because it makes no sense to head home when Verizon is walking distance.

Syracuse boards keep mentioning how their OOC will improve in future years because of playing us. I hope this is just their own fantasy.

First day of class And I am teaching right through the game (I'm on the West Coast)

Do I end class early so I can at least watch the second half?

Um yes?

You are a teacher and thus lord of the class. If you say the sun rises and sets with the hoyas then by god it does.

Just keep them there long enough so that they don't feel like showing up was a waste of time

Then call it a night, definitely

NYCers

Come to Sidebar in Union Square for the game.

UConn-WVU rooting interest?

I generally hate both teams and coaches.

UConn has more BE losses so far, but seems more likely to be at the top of the standings in late February. Plus WVU owns the tiebreaker over us.

I like Connecticut better as a state (Mom’s basement is in the suburbs of New Haven, after all) but that has never made me like the Huskies before.

But only one of these teams is (at least temporarily) loyal to the Big East. Go Huskies.

who got out of crim pro 45 mins early on the first day?

THIS GIRL!

great omen for tonight

Lucky

I am stuck in class until 9CST, so I get to spend half the game watching pixels on ESPN3 and pretending to pay attention to the prof

yeah we only went til 8 anyway

BUT STILL

Uconn gettin Jonesd

…Me, pregaming with a Monster and malibu

Watching sixers pacers

according to the announcers, roy hibbert played with jeff green and for john thompson junior… interesting

DJ Jazzy Jeff in attendance by the way

I assume wearing this

watching wvu-uconn – i have no idea how we kept it close (within 4 ) given the games sims and clark had

Jones is tough

He’s killing them 2

kilicli's slow jump hook is impossible to defend

key to beating wvu is doing what uconn is doing now. press, press, press.

the guards are turnover prone

i feel like i said that 6,000,000 times on saturday
Uconn looks lost..
now wvu looks lost
College BBall is the best..
I would not think I would ever say this

so glad the Huskies won

Bilas

A couple of minutes ago, he commented that Kilici is the WVU player who most resembles the Mountaineer mascot in the history of the program. I’m going to assume he saw the similar comment posted in the CasualAwards. Can’t wait for him to do the SWTE for our matchup with Duke in New Orleans.

#delusional

And here we...

go!

Drummonds having a game right now.. geeesh
I anybody Knicks fans on here?
yes

i hate the dolans

Shumperts been looking good...
wow refs blew that one
uconn win good

wvu and uconn both with two losses.

either cincy or gtown joins them tonight

Yep let’s get this W..
Shumpert sucks

Remember how every Knicks fan thought Landry Fields was the next Kobe? Well, Landry Fields sucks.

Over/under on times ESPN forces BCS updates on us during the game?
Currently less students at the game than at a UConn team meeting
Come on ESPN3

Don’t let me down…..again….

Your event is about to begin

Please stand by

damnit oklahoma, stop trying
What are the chances Oklahoma and ok state go to overtime?
high

knowing our luck

bet one of these show up

No big head mode?
Longest 30 seconds ever...game is over!
WHAT THE FUCK OKLAHOMA

FUCKING END THIS SHIT

Is anyone there?
hear chanting

not sure students or young alums

HENRY

At least he tried to dunk it

Well it's not like we started out the game with a flubbed dunk or anything
CasualHoya and HoyaTalk should start demanding finger rolls
Strong start...not

Gonna be a long night

Henry showing us why he doesn't usually try to dunk
three from hollis good sign
So many empty seats

So many

good d Lubick, part II
as many threes as we hit in 18 minutes of play against wvu
How many ladies does ESPN have doing play-by-play on mens games?

Casually impressed

Henry making the baby Jesus cry
"Mick" Cronin

Any other Irish-Americans offended by this guy’s name?

lubick has tough defensive assigment
Have to make him pay at the other end.

So far so good.

missed the first 3 min

To figure out how the app works grr

My man Lubick

Is doing his damn thing thus far

Agreed.

I hope Porter goes in for Sims after the timeout. Lubick is playing the best I’ve seen

We seem to be doing well enough at cleaning up the defensive boards

Worry decreasing slightly

sound of the rim clanging

comes through great on espn 3

God damnit Sims

Fucking 2 bunnies

Henry Sims

Can. Not. Score.

henry NEEDS to hit those
Henry is always a slow starter it seems
Let's blow these fuckers out

For Wright

It’s only Wright...Blow em Wright out the fuck*n building..
Aye Lubick playing well so far
it is so painful to have this comment thread

and a delayed game feed.

see y’all at halftime

lubick best player on the court right now
playing best i should say
Completely agree. He is filling his role perfectly.
The misses bother me much less...

Than the sloppy turnovers.

This might finally be lubicks breakout night
I thought he played really well

When he was actually on the floor on Sat

except for the four careless fouls?
When on the floor

You know what I am trying to say, son

Plus, isn't the consensus that the refs were trigger-happy?

Perhaps not as careless as the stats indicate.

lubicks fouls were awful
I'd have to go back and re-watch

Since I mental bleached that one immediately after. Not that concerned about it, anyway, so I’ll bow to your assessment – more important that he’s doing well so far tonight.

agree

he playing in front of his man

If it thundersnows a few times

There will be some happy Hoyas in the Phone Booth

I think I'd rather have Nate in this game than Henry

It’s still early lets see if he can sustain it..
lubick still on floor
depth

allowing III to play those who are playing well. It’s enjoyable.

Lubick with the Dirk
Does lubicks think he is Larry bird?
The intensity/hustle

In first five minutes is outstanding.

We are really, really hustling
I looked down for 2 seconds and heard "Lubick's Fadeaway"

What did he eat?

Speaking of Presidents

Happy 99th birthday, Richard Milhous Nixon

Team really trying to feed Lubick
That was off Wright
The Evil One
he who shall not be named
Busted Rolex?

Ouch….

fantastic 7 minutes from lubick
Evil Wright to the bench… lets move
Apparently

Game plan is FAST

porters shot has been off for a few games now
That was a cinderblock
If something's gonna shatter a backboard

that’s not how I wanna see it happen

Would you rather see it

in the “Alley-Oop on the Hoyas” highlight reel?

You make an excellent point.
He just keeps shooting it from deep.

I wish he would pick and choose his shots.

Remember those unadvisable three point tries in last game down the stretch?
Just when I thought we were going to hold them to single-digits...
I am a bit frustrated right now

That we aren’t up 15 right now

i'm a bit frustrated right now

that we haven’t knocked cashmere wright to the floor repeatedly.

Paging Lubick/Trawick...
yeah

I’m with you there.

The State Farm commercial

With BJ Raji is hilarious

Psh...they call that a fight?
Look Back

that cop in the instant replay really trying her best not to get involved

Mick Cronin

Talking about anger management counseling th day after he breaks his Rolex

Otto

What’s up my man

awesome inbounds, guys!
dammit porter

what the hell happened

Get Otto off the court
Well that sucked

Nice inbound and even better foul

Someone needs to give Otto a snow cone
gotta end that with a "no homo"
Depends how well he plays
Were those a bunch of puppies

in the background?

I think kris Humphries is in the building

He barks

Front row student section

Barks during free throws. Little Asian girl behind the basket is the one that you thought was a puppy.

It was a fun game

For 10 minutes…

That’s offensive..
LUBICK OUR SAVIOR
Lubick back

Right the ship.

Lubicks back.

I’m estimating 30-35 minutes

Our Saviour has returned.. Lubick back in!
i would've kept it on the BCS champ game if I wanted to see a bunch of missed field goals...
Offense not executing

not OK

Your handle...

Could use that right now, huh?

nothing is ok at the moment
Anyone else notice we're losing?
Greg

points for the hustle

Wow, done got concussed
Whittington could be playing middle linebacker
helmet to helmet

on defenseless receiver

Only in the Big East

is that a clean play. I love it.

We owe them some pain.
I am not thrilled with what is going on

Right now.

TIM TEBOW

jt3 is pissed

and he should be

espn is being a bitch

anything i should know other than lubick being thundersnowy and otto being decidedly NOT otto-like

old Cincy fan behind

And he’s pretty quiett

14-2 run

wha??? is everyone afraid of breaking their hands?

we look like a sloppy pile
huuuuuge flush by hank!
This is horrible right now

THAT A BOY HENRY

THATS HOW YOU CLEAN IT UP
It's. About. Fucking. Time.
down 5

do we look bad?

Sims' dunk

First thing to come through clearly on ESPN3. Nice!

I think we found their Lubick
*3 point wise that is
How many turnovers have we had in the last 3 minutes?
richardson is beasting on LSU right now...

wrong blog?

DIEIDIEIDIEDIEDIE

NOSECNOSECNOSEC

you mad?

It looks like big boy football…

I think Sims has 4 so far.
JTIII can talk defense all he wants,

but this team will win most of it’s games if at the other end they get the ball on the rim and just go get it (ask his dad!!)

We're playing crappy defense too
Entirely disagree

The only points they’re getting in the half-court are three-pointers. Defense always looks bad when you have SEVEN TURNOVERS in the first 12 minutes.

I think sims said "yeah mothafucka" when he dunked
7 turnovers

I hate how we start games

keep it coming hank!
Put Jabril on Dixon

Jesus Christ. It is so obvious.

Second time

Cincy has made absurd flailing/turnaround mid-range jumpers.

Paging Hollis Thompson...

NBA Draft candidate? All Big East Player? Our best shooter?

He just disappears

For extended periods of every single game

It’s unreal

Agreed...

Oh you hit our only 3? lets give everyone else a chance to shoot.

I guess he carries a beeper with him on the court
There have been enough brinks in this game to build a house
brinks home security?
Did Yancy Gates

Sucker punch the mic placed near the rim…..

Jason and Markel

Are too small to check Dixon. Take him away, and they have nothing.

Has to be Jabril

Not sure III trusts him with press

as many turnovers as field goals...

I thought that was last years team

kel is back from his coma

I mean concussion

i'll let them shoot those threes all day
Zone was a great call
SOMEBODY CHECK FUCKING DIXON
Bodycheck him
Wittington's shoulder can fix all of our problems
lovely 'oh shit' by markel right there

my thoughts exactly

I think five cheerleaders could play zone against the Bearcats and do pretty well

They look absolutely clueless

Except Dixon has some shades of Kemba

someone needs to shut him down and then its game over

I will never understand why Hollis

Doesn’t get 15-20 shots a game.

Or at least, you know, five in the first half
Still four minutes to rectify that
He can score from anywhere

Just like that fadeaway

2-2

why would he shoot more than twice?

This ESPN3 feed is making me miss Benimon's shoes

At least then I’d be able to definitively pick out one player on the court

When Nate's out there

It’s equally easy, and less offensive than watching Benimon play basketball.

I get it.

It’s because he’s the only person rebounding on the team.

Do you think

Women would give up their right to vote for the ability to drink Dr Pepper 10?

Better question

How many of the Hoya Cougars would gie up the franchise to have Hollis’s babies? Or win a title?

The Devil wants to know.

See what happens when Hollis does stuff?

Ya see?

lol.... this nigga is beastin right now...
THASSSSSS RAYCESSSSSSSS!
CONTINUE TO GIVE HOLLIS THE BALL
Hollis

Hot just like an oven

HOLLYWOOD!!!!!
KEEP FEEDING HOLLIS
Hollis is offense incarnate
Well that's cool hollis

keep feeding him

Strong move by Hopkins...

weak finish…

I'd like Sims and Hopkins to spend a week

Just shooting layups

yea... but Hopkins gonna be a beast in 2 years..
why is there nobody everytime Hopkins has the ball

Or at least this is the second time I noticed in a week

Hopkins is trying, but he's not good enough anchoring the defense

not yet at least.

apparently only cincy is allowed to get FT shots...
Gave a nice give back call on that offensive...
having a hard time resisting

trolling on WV’s board. Gotta remind myself that I am bigger than the toothless.

our big men

BLOW MORE WIDE OPEN SHOTS THAN ANY TEAM IN THE COUNTRY

Do you watch every team in the country?
gates is sweating like faucet yuck

The phone booth has HD screens awkwarddddss

wow yancy gates is huge

I would not want to be sucker punched by him

this team is lost
Good things happen

When Clark is in the paint

that's not luck

that’s ice cold

imagine how much we'd be leading by if we didn't have crappy turnovers

#delusion

That's not delusion

That’ sad reality…

crappy turnovers are part of our game
It looked like it might not be for a while

Then we returned to normalcy.

God damnit he's good
HOLLYWOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDD
OHHHHHHH even that goes in!!!!

Ridiculous.

HOLLIS THOMPSON IS MAGIC
HOLLIS THOMPSON NEEDS TO TAKE MORE FUCKING SHOTS
THIS

THIS ALL THE GODDAMNED TIME

if we don't win after that

we missing the tournament…

Now who wanna f*k wit Holywood Hollis?
FEED HOLLIS THE DAMN BALL
GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL

New plan guys. Hollis takes every shot, from anywhere.

Hollis

= Reggie

don't say that

I like Hollis

What the hell do you have

against Reggie Williams?

my bad

thought you meant Reggie Miller…I grew up rooting for Ewing’s Knicks

Allright.

I can handle that.

We an call off the pogram.

Let's pump the brakes a bit.

Hollis is a great shooter, but Reggie was the MAN.

Every time we are in a close game

my immediate reaction is “Reggie do something dammit” before I remember who the current players are.

Give Otto two seasons.
5-5 and the bank is open!

And he was fouled.

Five shots for Hollis

Five makes. I should have asked for seven or eight.

Unfuckingbelievable
Hollis

Helps to relieve my mind

Hollywouldn’t you know he did it again….
Late night hours...the bank is open!
Hollis Thompson?

He looks more like a young Ray Allen to me

Reggie

Reggie fuckin Williams!

Go Knicks!!!
My Bad wrong board..lol
awkward
for hollis

the bank is always open

Hollis

can shoot as much as he damn wants

who wants to sex Thompson?
Hey guys!

Only nine turnovers in the first half! Single digits!

Just urinated

Been holding it in for awhile

Thank you for not documenting
Thank you

For not documenting

Thank you for

not documenting

Thank you for...

Oh, you know

When did our team become simple jack with the rock?

To expand on what chrisharvey'sfacialhair started above...

Is anybody else worried

that half time will just end up completely cooling Hollis off?

If it happens

Someone else will step up. #stilldelusional

Umm

No. Not until you mentioned it and poisoned the kharmic well.

I jinxed it

I think I jinxed it. Did I jinx it? I think I did

Shouldn't drawn attention to that

The men with torches might show up at your door

I'm more concerned

That he won’t get another shot until the under four media timeout

Wow

I was only off by about 30 seconds with this gloomy prediction.

our freshmen are so ahead of schedule

that they are already having a sophmore slump

No touchdowns so far in the NCG...

shocker…

So Katy Perry, Linkin Park and Indian interpretive dance @ halftime

Pilgrim Pete coming out with a flamethrower at the under 16 would make more sense than this

Beth Mowins and Tim Welsh

Aka…..the A-team. Surprised we could get them during spelunking season.

I love Holland

Thompson that is

He's a great player

Right along with Michael Starks and Nate Lubbock, who played with us a few games ago.

Not to mention

this tweet from John Rothstein

Interesting how Georgetown is using Brandon Bowman on Cashmere Wright early. Length could be a major factor here.
Can't wait for Cashmere to make a 4-point play at the buzzer
keepin cincy in game with to's...

need more shots. Also need to shoot the ball more…

The good news is we're defending the OTHER hoop the rest of the game...
Holland Tunnelson...

FOR THREEEEEEEEEE!!!????

Cincinnati ad is a total ripoff of ours
Would you rather

Name your kid cashmere? Or Pashmina?

damn my office

for blocking espn3. UNcasual

office at 10 ? i smell infidelity ...
Or Business Casual

Tip your waitresses

Sims could make a very nice living on that shot
Timmy Welsh should stick to being a horrible coach

That way he only angers one BE fan base and not them all

this intro makes me mad

Greg Monroe left us

Cincinnati's coach looks like Scott Hamilton

there I said it

who is scott hamilton?

You just need to STOP

being SO GOOD!

google images deserves the credit

and i couldn’t resist the pleather…

Oh wow. That is awesome
yes this picture put mine totally to shame

wish I could delete mine now

Cashmere Wright

has a soft touch

Nate not even looking phased by that awful turnover he just had
Clark

pickin up the freshmen

Perfume boy male model is exactly who I expected him to be

dumb as rocks

Otto needs to return...

Ready to redeem his bad-ass self!!!

Hollis and jason

needs shots!

no nut grabbin!
Everytime someone other than Clark or Hollis takes a shot

an angel loses its wings

That ankle twist looked horrible.
Comcast sucks

How about occasional score updates here?

Think Hollis is fine

But that looked so painful

ft

Our free throw defense sucks

Otto and Lubick

Oh hell yeah!

47-42 good guys

Nate is playing a very solid game

Give the kid his due

Riding the Otto-Lubick express
Can we get Lubick that shot all night?
Maybe not Thundersnowing in the classic sense

but effective

Please bring Jabril in

For Kilpatrick

Seriously

It is so obvious. Is he sick?

can we do that?
Keep feeding Porter at the high post!!!
When the fuck

Will we play lockdown defense again?

when we're down 17
or last few minutes of the game when we're losing
Alright back to positive vibes

At least the offense is working tonight

Can we put together a run?

Haven’t seen one since I had that day old burrito.

TRAWICK FOR KILPATRICK
Can nobody on our team stop kilpatrick?
Goddamnit

JABRIL. nOW

I think

I’d be zoning the hell out of this team

Agreed

Although they always hit heatcheck threes against us.

HOW ABOUT NATE LUBICK
Holy Thunder Snow!!!!!!!!
PUT IN BOWEN !!!!
Holy hell

Lubick for president!

How was that not a foul?

And how on earth did Lubick see and complete that pass?

Maybe it was an accident?

#don’tcare

awesome...

…Never do that again

I think it's popcorn chicken time

No more fucking around

THUNDER FUCKIN SNOW
and that is why Nate Lubick is on this basketball team.
anyone else concerned

about the lack of hair in the middle of JT III’s mustache?

awesome...

…DO THAT EVERYTIME

Is jtiii trying to publicly shame Whitt?
I didn't see that clearly until the replay

And I still don’t know how it happened/worked

Otto-Lube

the new Stockton-Marlone

Autolube?
If Jeff Green was still around

it would have been Jiffy lube

Someone please gif that Lubick pass

Por favor

I can do it for you later, if you like

But only once ESPN3 posts the replay

Otto Porter having a much better second half
We need 1 stop...just 1
Has Thompson gotten off a shot yet?
it's amazing how tight this game has been

consistently

Who isn't amazed at consistent tightness?
and it shouldn't have been

considering that we are a ranked global powerhouse playing at home

We're playing a middling Big East team at home

And have zero answer on defense. I am sad.

Cincy was picked 5th ... We were picked 10th...
Yep. Before the season started.
yeah

Cincy had a really bad start, but they are not a bad team.

Agreed. Just frustrating.

We don’t enjoy an obvious talent gap against any Big East opponent so every game is a kick in the sack. A cakewalk – just one – would be nice for the confidence…

Looking for reasons to be deluded.

Henry's mid range game

May be the name of my first child

This is an enormous possession

Out of this timeout.

Cot damn Jason
GET A STOP!!
yay

If you yell, it works

we are shooting 100%

why is this game close?

A lot of turnovers

And Cincy is mega pesky

Mr. obvious guy says: no defense
Did not like that baseline jumper by Sims

Too early in the shot clock for that. Guessing JT3 wasn’t a huge fan either, since he got Lubick up right after it.

Yeah

That was definitely a “I’m feeling it and don’t remember what’s going on with the game” shot. We had numbers and ended up with a Sims 12 footer. No bueno.

The more I think about it Kashmir

is a good name.

Cashmere, not so much.

you obviously haven't spent much time East of the River...
Like Led Zep

not sweaters

is this the under 12-min timeout?
Under eight
ok thanks - cincy calling TO shortly under 12 min threw me off
And I take that back
So JGD said Hollis should get 15-20 shots a game

I said five in the first half would be reasonable. But I did not mean five in the first half, zero in the second.

WATCH ESPN FOR IPHONE

cas-u-al.

Lubick is playin' with confidence...

me likey…!!!!

Just got home from class

What was the Otto-Lubick thing that I missed?

behind the back pass from Lubick
And two other

Nice dishes from Otto to Nate for layups

A beautiful, beautiful pass.

That he must’ve just sensed, because there’s no way he could actually see Porter.

the second coming of starkton and Marlone
nice hustle captain
Why do we never ourselves when someone gets in trouble
In English please
I mean

That is just such a shitty possession.

I don’t even know what to say.

a bad pass indeed
good foul...if there ever was one
Daaaaa Luuuuuube!

Lube me up!

is anyone else watching this on epsn3 annoyed by all the Bleu de Chanel ads?

stupid frenchies

YES!

As i mentioned earlier, perfume boy male model is exactly who I expect him to be.

Dumb as rocks.

i'm especially annoyed that they're the only part of the video that's clear
Yes

But, I did see one of my alumni interviewees cheering in the crowd link.

that is the most annoying ad

makes no sense

LSU just did exactly what we did on that last possession

Given, it’s a little more important in football..

Jeez, he blew out his knee
OH SHIIIIt..... That bama LB's leg went the other way
Hep's going to wish he wasn't digging in his snout on that closeup

Ouch

big john uses hankerchielf
hep uses fingers

Who else likes

That Cashmere Wright has 0 points and 3 fouls. Suck it asshole. Also die.

living the handle there
Please

I live this handle every day.

4 Fouls

Still an asshole

Lubick with double single

6 pts 6 rebounds

Another autolube connection
Lubick

I am so happy right now

59-53 @ 6:28

We’re shooting 63% and Lubick is having his best game of the year

LUBICKS BAR MITZVAH

Mazel Tov to our new man…

Do not like not-wide open 18' jumpers

Do like THUNDER SNOW putbacks.

8 and 7 for lubick….yes!!!

LUBE!!!!!!!!!!
Otto lube workingff
snow mannnnnnn
Lubick

was pissed b/c TexaHoya was dissin’ him….ha!!!!

not liking our jump shot selection last couple plays
And Henry clicks "dislike" by taking another one

Thank goodness for the bailout foul.

The box scores doesn't capture all of it, lubick is the play of the game so far
Not even close

He has been really, really good

So pumped

About the return of the Nate we all know and love

snow is on lubicks side
Someone should elbow Gates

He would never retaliate. Cause of the Xavier game.

Even though the Hoyas are deeper

how come they have the most fouls, let’s not abuse the foul situation, please!

Huge lineup on the floor right there...

Hollis at the 2..

fouling sims on the turnaround

more please.

they called a walk...dammit ref!
Motherfuck

fuck fuck fuck

enjoyed the audible yell there
PUT IN TRAWICK AND PUT HIM ON KILPATRICK
Why is killpatrick not double teamed?
good call ref...walkin' on cashmere!
Kilpatrick joining the Ramone Moore All Stars
Put the ball on the rim at least once

EVERY TIME DOWN!!!
please?

Don't make Lubick angry

You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry…

Hollis takes his first shot of the second half.

4:31 to go

LUBICK is coming to LIFE....YEAH
Lubick has been unfuckingbelievanle

Minus that turnover

Cashmere- 0 points, 4 fouls

not quite payback, but a good start

It's a missed opportunity

If nobody steps on him before he fouls out

I think Whittington

hit him with a decent screen/forearm shiver at one point.

holy fuck

practice underneath basket in bounds

good block bad pass..smh!
put this game away already...

uggghhhh

lol..Starks travelled like shyt
At least the 3rd time they've played a replay instead of the real game

Would be nice to see whats actually happening

Nothing is easy with this damn team
Youth?

On the other hand, I’ll take tough, heart-attack victories over any kind of losses any day of the week.

I feel like we should be up at least 10

what is this 3 pt lead crap?

Welcome back, turnovers

I’d say I missed you, but that’d be a bigger lie than claiming LSU’s offense has been good tonight.

wow

this game could have been put away so many times

15 turnovers?

Stankyyyy

12 steals for them is just rediculous.
too many turnovers for a tipsy person

I’m going full on crosseyed

And who could have expected

The BCS Championship would be hideously boring? Oh wait.

59-56 @ 3:16

Our turnovers and difficulty with the whole “inbounds-pass thing” are keeping them close

This is wholly unacceptable
Hollis needs to just throw one up

see what happens…

We already saw what happens

Just before halftime…

But I wanna see it again!
Oh look, a one point game!
MONDAY DRINKING!!!
Holy Shit!!!

You waited until two minutes to go to remind me??!!!
for shame!!!!

Alright fellas

Time to regroup. Last 3 minutes are winning time, forget the rest of the shit. 3 minutes to 4-1, that’s all that matters

Bring in the Otto

so he can make beautiful snowballs with da lube

seriously.... it's getting old
heart attack hoyas

consistent across the seasons in that

It really is amazing....
so that's what the "our heroes change, the legend lives on" shirt REALLY meant

it all becomes clear

no one really stepping up though

especially no freshman

Time to see this poise that everyone keeps talking about
Missing the front end

does not equal poise.

Jonathan Wallace is not walking through that door
value the ball...

pocesssions = points. turnovers = drano consumption

The rim mic on the Cincinnati end is driving me mad
I'm really not sure

Why Starks and Trawick haven’t played much.

Especially considering the ball security issues

I guess it's due to Lubick's surprising play
and in case of Trawick

lack of perimeter defense

christ almighty

this is not good

When you're giving the other team five-to-seven extra possessions a game...

Does that qualify as “not helping yourself???”

what the fuckmonkeys
gates also obnoxiously theatrical
Where were those touch fouls the first 38:27?
can't really contain anyone anymore
Trawick

Vee Sanford honorary inexplicable lack of playing time award tonight

Unless Jabril took a shit on JT3s desk

I do not understand his lack of minutes

Apparently he must've robbed the local carry-out or something
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE AREN'T PLAYING ZONE RIGHT NOW

I FEEL LIKE I AM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND

cashmere wright cannot score

noooooooo

how does Porter keep getting put on guards?
four guard offense

makes it inevitable

oh god

why is porter guarding a guard 25 feet from the basket

Well we're gonna need another miracle shot
Does Cincinnati just keep running the same play?
WHERE THE FUCK IS TRAWICK
Cincy up 64-62 @ 1:07

On Cashmere WRight’s 2 FTs

SATANS

little fuckbudy gets two freethrow? NO

his bday too? it's just too weird. tooo weird.
My feed is now entirely pixels

Fuck you ESPN3. Fuck. You.

Was terrified Henry was going to take that 15 footer

Now I kind of wish he did

Hey, can hollis take this shot?

It’d make me feel better

I cannot believe we're in this position

Shot so damn well the entire half, but got utterly shredded on defense. W T F

I have 0 faith in us winning this game tonight

Mick Cronin is outcoaching JT3

#thingsididntexpecttosaytonight

Do we drop out of the top 25?
It'll

take more than losing this game

I think I just shit myself
It can't be Otto taking that shot

I am sorry, it just can’t. Not with Clark and Thompson on this team

How was that not a Goaltend?

Maybe I need a new prescription.

Valium

That’s the Rx you want

enough to share plz
Hey just got in

what did i miss

Run a play for Hollis

I beg you

wringing of hands wringing of hands
I want Clark

driving to the basket

OT

HOPEFULLY….

Cincy up 64-62 @ 24 seconds, JTIII calls a timeout

We have the ball, shot clock is off

Are they not gonna put Bowen in?

make it rain Aaron

They're playing the cha-cha-slide

We have no chance of winning

This fkn sux.
The DJ at Verizon is an ass

Seriously? This song?

this team sucks
HIS FOOT WASN'T DOWN
seventeenth TO?!
I am so frustrated right now
Fuck this gay earth
17 TO vs Cin 9 TO...smh!
Completely clean steal
Shoudl've put Bowen in...
He still has his warmup pants on #dontunderstandatall
You will never win a game with 17 turnovers
Not over yet

Still a sliver of hope

exactly

unless you’re playing Howard tonight!

I am no long comfortable

when the ball is in Otto’s hands

JT III

terrible night by him

Yes

He got his ass handed to him tonight.

so he

can’t beat Huggins, has a hell of a time against Brey, has trouble with Cronin. Hmmmm

Why was he even in the game?

Is Otto really a better offensive option than Nate?

Live by the Freshmen

Die by the Freshmen. sigh.

knew that coming into the season
Couldn't they have just sucked from the start?

Why do they always fucking tease us??

My current theory

Is that God hates me. But that’s pretty egotistical on my part.

This is what happens when you rely on freshman in close Big East games
Should not have been in this position

When you can’t play defense and keep turning the ball over, the fickle finger of fate can screw you in a close game.

yup

turnovers and free throw shooting are story of the game, again

why are we so sloppy all of a sudden?

the ranking going to their head?

Should not have lost to these clowns
Full blown collapse is in effect
lucky to make ncaa
Next year will be better...
Ugh. I hate fouls at this point in the game.

It prolongs the misery.

Hoyas get ranked in top 10

followed by season crushing collapse…. how is this even a surprise anymore… sigh

Seriously

Every year. We actually shot well this game. But 17 TO’s means we gave them 17 of our shots. Game over.

blargles

Home loss hurts

Dam.. Young team but we gave 1 away there
Cincy OWNS us....smh!
Hollis Thompson was 5-5 in the first half

0-1 in the second. How can the team/staff let that happen?

cronin took him out of the game

what we couldnt do with their top scorers

I liked when Greg was playing lockdown D on top scorers
They covered him like a tarp

And our offense is trained to pass if they don’t have a shot (which he rarely did)

Is this the start of a X game slide after being ranked in the top 10?
I’m out I need a shower… smh
I never want to be ranked in the top 10 again
Our Hoyas

The best nfl late regular season diversion going.

Just stop watching once the playoffs start.

Hollis Thompson doesn't have the heart...

good luck going undrafted…

Settle down

It is one half of one game. He is our best player.

Dude disappears more than he steps up...

Atleast Austin had heart… just not the size…

Little early to call it a collapse, guys

Have some faith

This team has played ONE good Big East game out of FIVE
do you ever post something positive?

or do you just troll?

Yes, this sucks…little premature to call a total collapse though.

I brace myself for the worst

so that I don’t feel as hurt when it happens

A similar philosophy is used by Emergency Management & Disaster Preparedness agencies...

Prepping for basketball season like the second coming of Hurricane Andrew must be depressing.

Like using a condom in anticipation if STD's
But then it never feels as good

Too far?

I like to roll the dice

I agree

Is it just me or was Hollis not even trying to get the ball on that alst posession
Just you

looks like a designed play to get him a set shot/misfired

close loss, everyone calm down

more problematic is that these are dumb losses involving a lot of sloppiness

This wasn't some unlucky loss...

Where the wrong evenly matched team wins. They had 2 guys who could score and they beat us every single time in the paint. Meanwhile we gave them 17 TO’s. Thats an actual problem, not unsolvable but highly troubling.

hardly disagreeing that it isn't troubling

just saying we’re not on a one-way street to total meltdown

glad its happening in the first two weeks of january
reduce the turnovers by just a handful

and we’d have won

WHERE THE FUCK WAS TRAWICK

Needed a boost towards the end, why not bring him in for some defensive intensity on the perimeter? Instead, we switch 25 feet from the basket and have Porter get beat at least twice in a row

finally

The real Hoyas full of turnovers, lack of intensity and bad coachin. JTIII called 2 timeouts on one possession for that slop. No one movin. Clark n Hollis dont sniff the ball? Fuk

I hate this team. Time to root for UMD

Is that from HoyaTalk?
nope. Just a little sarcasm for a quick laugh. Come on relax people it could be worse (UMD)
Team effort, but this one starts with the coach

Did we ever have the right defensive unit out there? It seemed like we were always going big, with Henry/Nate/Otto on the floor (likely due to Nate’s surprising play tonight), and it left us slow on both ends.

agree

this one is on 3. we got beat by the 4 guard lineup.

on to st johns

Porter stepping out of bounds on a botched play

reminiscent of Nikita’s shot off the side of the basket ….

except one was in early january and the other in march?

Otto Porter (sunglasses)...

SLIIIIIIID TO THE RIGHT a little too far there
http://yeahbutton.com/

I lol'd

Impressed that you could get a laugh from me, given what just happened

Well... our 20 year olds got slapped around by their 20 year olds.

It sucks how much I care. I wish I didn’t. Really.

Getting the ball stolen on an under the basket in bounds

it’s not like they are even running a play, 3 guys run to corners, and 1 guy to mid court. Those turnovers cannot happen.

Simmer Down everyone

This isn’t HoyaTalk. The sky isn’t falling. These are 19 year old kids. Pretty sure most of us will have a few shit days at work this year.

There is nothing good to take from this game

You can just nut up and get angry

Excepting Lubick finally showing up?
Shot 60%, we Outrebounded 25-19, we outassisted 16-7, outblocked 4-0

if we were remotely close in TO this is a blowout

Wow

That’s…almost uplifting.

I think it's actually really depressing
I'm taking it as

This is a team that can play very well, but has a turnover problem (hopefully only for the moment). For a squad of mostly underclassmen, that does not depress me.

Fair enough

But given the turnover problems that have been endemic with the last few Hoya teams, it has me in cynical mode right now.

well our two seniors combined for more turnovers than the cincy team.
Well

…that is a little frightening. Weren’t you just posting all kinds of optimism?

This is why I don't like numbers. Or math.

They inevitably find a way to make me sad.

teams are giving sims fits with the ball

he has been exposed. now it is time to fix it. five days until st johns.

We may just have to come to terms that the "sims evolution" has turned him into a solid, but not great player
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Are you some kind of manic contrarian?
I mean hollis and jason were on fire

but hollis took maybe 1 shot the whole second half? Either they played truly amazing defense or…what I have no idea.

they shut down hollis

he barely touched the bal

i think the problem isn't the offense

it’s more that Hollis can get completely taken out of the game at times by the other team, and has no way of affecting the game when he’s being targeted by the defense as of right now. It seems like he can’t even get open.

any one player can be taken out of a team if the defense goes at him

gotta find ways to score other ways

When we were winning, someone new steped up each time

Can’t just harp on Hollis

I agree

but Hollis needs to be able to do something except spot up for 3. He doesn’t seem to get into the game any other way recently.

But this absolutely isn’t all his fault or anything like that.

I'm barking at all Cincy fans

It’s a good time,

prob gonna get punched in the face
no one is fighting me back too scared of me

… Or all the fans here are old as fart Same thing

elevated expectations getting the worst of people

we probably should have lost marquette and won tonight. its college basketball. this stuff happens.

we have a young team and emerging stars. the problems we saw tonight are fixable. our turnovers are from sloppy passing – trying to get too good of a look at the basket.

we’ll be fine. this is a tournament team.

Well summarized

Thank you for the level-headed perspective

Agree.

This team has shown in early season games that they have the intangibles (like chemistry) that can’t be taught. They just need to be able to capitalize on that under pressure. If making good, confident passes is the biggest thing we need to fix…I’m okay with that.

In the last four years

We are a combined 1-10 against West Virginia and Cincinnati. I’m going to save my judgment on our team until after the Pitt game (the next four), as follows:

4-0: legitimate Elite 8 team that just cannot beat WVU and Cincy
3-1: NCAA tournament team that has an outside shot at making the second weekend.
2-2: Bubblicious at best. Hello, NIT game at McDonough.
1-3: 08-09 all over again.
0-4: ready to jump off a cliff

you'd think Clark would see this coming by now

happening as it has, year after year

what happens year after year?

losing two games in a row?

I think it's coaching.

I’m usually a big JTIII fan (and don’t think he’s at fault for most of our losses), but going 1-10 against a pair of opponents shows unpreparedness. Same schemes, different players, same results.

painful to watch that one

…was hoping not having to watch the field goalfest would put me in a good mood. this sux

Let's review my week in sports...

My Penguins are basically holding public tryouts to fill out the roster after all the injuries, and haven’t won in, like, 3 weeks.
The Hoyas have now dropped two in a row…
And my Steelers? Well…http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ni49af&s=5

why cant we finish games...?
we did against marquette and louisville
and Memphis
Yea, I guess

Just these last four years have given me very little confidence in a close game with less than 2 mins to go

Hollis Thompson, 1.8 seconds to go, at Alabama

They can do it…they just need to find a way to do it consistently to be a great team. They may not be ready to be a great team, but we knew that coming into the season, didn’t we?

that is the team

that could finish 10th in the Big East

Could be worse, at least we aren't LSU fans
That's true

I think the announcer said there’s never been a shut out in any of the major bowls let alone the NC

In other news, it took eight quarters for either Alabama or LSU to score a touchdown.

(’Bama scored.)

It took 4 quarters...

for lsu to cross midfield…

Doesn't seem like our talent level is appreciably higher (or lower) than anyone else in the Big East

Slogfests like this are going to be 50/50 all year long

Not jumping off of a cliff, but let's keep it real here

-Our out of conference wins are ‘ok’ at best.
-Our win at Louisville is ‘ok’. Fukn Notre Dame just beat them there.
-We have a complete inability to stop anybody from driving and that has been the case for the last 5 years. We just can’t recruit good enough athletes for some reason.
-Our coach still has absolutely no idea how to run a play a) out of a timeout b) for the hottest shooter on the floor that hasn’t missed in the first half and has 1 FUKN SHOT IN THE SECOND HALF c) know that you can’t continue to play man to man against a team that drives to the hole at will and either scores or gets fouled on every possession. EVERY POSSESSION. Seriously.
-Enough with the “we’re young” bullshit. We start 2 seniors and a junior that has graduated. That is just an excuse.

Up 6 with 6 to go, and we are outscored by 10. At home. We were outplayed and outcoached. I think this one is 100% on JTIII. Pathetic job by him. The tough matchups for us are teams that are athletic, rebound, and play good d. Basically the exact opposite of us.

I hate to say it, but nothing in the last 3 years leads me to believe that this team will do anything but free fall from here. I love the Hoyas and will cheer them on every game, but come on…this shit is getting really old.

and not to mention

The ease with which we give the ball away all game long, especially in crunch time is something that I’ve never seen from a top 20 college basketball team in my 33 years. It’s startling.

Regarding your dismissal of the youth factor

We may start three upperclassmen, but we also have stretches of 1 senior and 4 freshmen on the floor at a time.

To be fair, the BE sucks across the board

Nova and Pitt are a joke, Uconn just got swept by the NJ teams, etc.

I hate to say it, but nothing in the last 3 years leads me to believe that this team will do anything but free fall from here.

Unfair. 08-09 was disaster. 09-10 our best scored got diagnosed with diabetes, we still made a strong run at end of season and lost abysmal game in tourney. ’10-11 our leader broke his hand after we had won 9 out of 10.

Those arent excuses, they are realities.

This team will be fine. Porter had the worst game of his career. It is early January, lot of basketball left.

I think Porter's worst game

was actually West Virginia, this was his second worst

I'm interested in why JTIII left Porter out there

I’m wondering if he’s started coaching for the tournament more

which tournament

the BE on a Tuesday?

Not sure he had another option

Lubick would get beat. Whittington already got eaten alive. Trawick is an option but JT3 probably believed that Porter on offenses is more valuable than Trawick on defense. For most of the reason, that has been true. Just not tonight.

He's been dependable as a scorer and not a liability on defense thus far

With that as a general precedent (and no dfinitively better option), why would he replace him?

Trawick is the move there

Everyone, including that dolt Tim Welsh, saw that their entire offense down the stretch was exploit the mismatch of Porter on the perimeter. Their guards got to the basket at will. You have to make an adjustment. Sims not rotating early enough didnt help matters either.

Yeah I have nothing constructive to say right now

Too angry

free throws and ball control

now get to work

Amen

That’s stuff you can improve on.

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